tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post4521701048455629915..comments2024-03-24T11:39:28.574-04:00Comments on NYC Public School Parents: Another Pineapple? Talking snake shows that secrets are hard to keep about the flawed NYS examsPatrick Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10631038958645725010noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-79313783934640652372015-08-22T01:37:23.670-04:002015-08-22T01:37:23.670-04:00It is very frustrating to listen the difficulty le...It is very frustrating to listen the difficulty level of questions are asked from little kids.At this age, child start building and understanding things in little chunks. There should be strict checking of question papers before exams.It introduces negativity in students.I am also running an <a href="http://www.gateway.edu.in/giet" rel="nofollow">engineering college in Delhi</a>, India. At this point of time ,all senses works correctly.We can assign complex problems.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14982924819248677797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-10924602733955320772015-08-15T11:59:10.739-04:002015-08-15T11:59:10.739-04:00Aside from the terrible questions, parents should ...Aside from the terrible questions, parents should worry about the content and "moral" of the story -- it's important to keep secrets! That message is reinforced by the questions - if you don't know that it's important to keep secrets, you'll answer incorrectly. <br /><br />This is not the first instance of corporate education interests using test questions to promote their creepy agenda. See, for example, the scandalous charter school questions PURE exposed a while ago: http://pureparents.org/?p=19164 Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526002635556083205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-57421930450585221632015-08-13T08:08:39.761-04:002015-08-13T08:08:39.761-04:00Great!Great!Jeremiah Wesleyhttp://jerehaircuts.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-58828054855916181342015-08-12T21:30:34.790-04:002015-08-12T21:30:34.790-04:00This outrageous item reveals a big flaw in normed ...This outrageous item reveals a big flaw in normed tests. If you want to write a test that will distribute the test takers over a 100 percentile range, you have to have a few items that will distinguish between the people at the ends of the range, i.e. several questions that will show the difference between test takers at the 98th percentile and test takers at the 99th percentile and several that will distinguish between the 1st & 2nd percentiles. This means you have to design a few questions that ALMOST everyone will get wrong and a few that ALMOST everyone will get right. These fine distinctions do not matter for instruction, nor, I suspect, for any other ordinary purpose. <br /><br />The notion that these scores are useful to teachers is nonsense. Teachers need to know how each child is reasoning, and how they understood or misunderstood an assignment. This can best be determined by examining classwork and homework, and through direct interactions with each child. Of course this is why we need small classes, so the teachers can spend time with each learner and help each one understand new concepts and procedures. It also explains why we need experienced teachers - after a few years, an experienced teacher can remember what was difficult for certain learners and what helped them grasp the concept or procedure.<br />Rosalie Friend, Ph.D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-80450850983437863712015-08-12T14:38:10.141-04:002015-08-12T14:38:10.141-04:00I wrote a post about one of the 8th grade ELA ques...I wrote a post about one of the 8th grade ELA questions:<br /><br />http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2015/08/an-incredibly-discouraging-example.htmlTom Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577165613934129833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-12599742359418872792015-08-12T06:14:28.479-04:002015-08-12T06:14:28.479-04:00Manufacturing failure with contrived trick assessm...Manufacturing failure with contrived trick assessment questions that have nothing to do with unlocking a child's innate desire to learn.Clyde Gawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416771200572948193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-58110069668123564972015-08-11T20:41:30.912-04:002015-08-11T20:41:30.912-04:00Part of the problem is that the best questions fro...Part of the problem is that the best questions from the test maker's point of view are the ones that discriminate rather than the ones that help us know what the students know. The purpose is to sort kids rather than find out what they know. I doubt that even the corporate/political reformers understand this as they can understand the psychometricians either. Douglas Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12585254833466108022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-86951302689051058462015-08-11T19:42:54.491-04:002015-08-11T19:42:54.491-04:00Is there any rational justification for administer...Is there any rational justification for administering secret tests to children? I can't imagine one, which is one if several reasons my wife and I won't permit our children to take the state tests. NYSED must release ALL questions immediately after tests are administered, so children, parents and teachers can discuss and learn from the tests' content. Otherwise the tests must be rejected as inappropriate instruments of control that simply have no place in the education of a free citizenry.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322596465473970652noreply@blogger.com