tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post5405178704241987758..comments2024-03-24T11:39:28.574-04:00Comments on NYC Public School Parents: UPDATED: Does the secret meeting of Steiner's waiver committee violate the state Open Meetings law?Patrick Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10631038958645725010noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-32633746685249342092010-11-30T03:41:07.039-05:002010-11-30T03:41:07.039-05:00Every dark night is followed by a bright sunny day...Every dark night is followed by a bright sunny day. So, patience and attention is required and things will be fruitful in near future.<br />======================<br /><a href="http://www.lawyersoft.net/category/lawyers" rel="nofollow">Injury Lawyer</a>helenth01https://www.blogger.com/profile/16937954827619679490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-11339115928589074792010-11-22T06:45:44.027-05:002010-11-22T06:45:44.027-05:00Does anyone REALLY think that any objections or an...Does anyone REALLY think that any objections or any motions or anything at all matters or can stop this appointment? Bloombergs money has bought everything he has wanted along the way: initial election, overturning of term limits, Joel Klein's waiver etc. Doesn't anyone realize he'll buy this too? And now to make matters worse than they already were, not only will we have a millionaire mayor, but a millionaire chancellor who never even attended public school. Education is no place for millionaires, and neither is politics. Just when we thought things couldn't get any worse.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-14042523338369731702010-11-21T12:21:22.611-05:002010-11-21T12:21:22.611-05:00Our Mayor constantly uses his money and influence ...Our Mayor constantly uses his money and influence to manipulate situations in his favor. In fact, it is the hallmark of his reign. This happened with overturning term limits, this happens with a stacked PEP membership and now this faux panel assembled to feign thoughtful discussion about Cathie Black. Many nonprofit organizations throughout the city rely on his donations and they are unable to support those of us fighting against the catastrophe that is mayoral control and and privitization of education. There is not a law or rule he does not overturn or overlook to suit his agenda. Regulations about class sizes and special education laws are mere suggestions to this man. Why anyone thinks a state law would apply to this situation or any other is beyond me.Room 229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-81895149739068000582010-11-21T11:12:38.018-05:002010-11-21T11:12:38.018-05:00Someone has said that
"A well informed citiz...Someone has said that <b><br />"A well informed citizenry is essential for a democracy"</b><br /><br />Well informed? Ha!<br /><br />Public Education? Ha!<br /><br />Democracy? Ha!<br /><br /><br /><i>Only we of the ultra-wealthy elite know best. Nobody does it better!</i><br /><br /> Let's send the ill mannered idiots to kill South American Unionists.<br /><br />And as a reward teach the fools how to have great sex safely!!<br /><br />Let's go Black and we'll never turn back!!CitizensSupportingBloombergsCorruptionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-33701347233833207842010-11-21T09:18:14.178-05:002010-11-21T09:18:14.178-05:00Someone should get a ruling on this. And from a f...Someone should get a ruling on this. And from a federal lawyer, not one from NY. Since Ms. Black is not "personnel" yet, it does not seem appropriate. My understanding is that executive session is for sensative personnel issues like possible disciplinary action being brought against board members. Also it requires a motion at a public meeting.jbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680361146339319727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-8435194213376331532010-11-20T20:02:25.850-05:002010-11-20T20:02:25.850-05:00Do not turn our children's
world Black!
How co...Do not turn our children's<br />world Black!<br />How could a person make a <br />decision about a classroom<br />and not know directly and <br />first hand about the implications and impact<br />it will have?<br />This secret meeting sounds<br />like something the mafia would do. <br />Yes, it is illegal but we live in<br />America. America is about breaking<br />the law to suit your own need. <br />Especially, by politicians, the rich<br />and by people in power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-15373930030553197322010-11-20T18:32:12.482-05:002010-11-20T18:32:12.482-05:00@ Mr. Wolf and Mr. Owens: Personnel matters are in...@ Mr. Wolf and Mr. Owens: Personnel matters are indeed one reason to motion for a closed executive session. BUT, that motion must be made at an open public meeting. Also, the Committee on Open Government warns that "Citing 'personnel matters' is not a sufficient ground for going into an executive session."NYCPubSchoolerhttp://www.dearcommissionersteiner.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-69882698142073773582010-11-20T17:26:43.485-05:002010-11-20T17:26:43.485-05:00As a former member of Community School Board 13 (B...As a former member of Community School Board 13 (Brooklyn), I would dispute the requirement that this meeting be closed per the Open Meetings Law's exemptions regarding personnel matters.<br /><br />Any content pertaining to Ms. Black's performance reviews and any complaints against her by past employees WOULD be subject to such a restriction.<br /><br />Any basic discussion of her knowledge of education as a professional and the application of her past work to her proposed position, however, would require no more protection than a hearing on a Supreme Court nominee or Cabinet member.<br /><br />That being said, I am neither surprised nor troubled by the meeting being closed. The time for open meetings was prior to the Mayor's nomination, when multiple finalists could be heard from.<br /><br />I am, however, very troubled by the composition of the advisory group AND the fact that there is no evidence that neither Mayor Bloomberg, Joel Klein nor Cathie Black have already conversed with any of the members of this group. <br /><br />If any of the advisory groups HAVE spoken with one of the three (or a representative thereof), then they should take themselves off of this group.Hon. Chris Owenshttp://www.owensforchange.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-29050311963515540852010-11-20T17:06:42.519-05:002010-11-20T17:06:42.519-05:00From ‘Gothamist’:
“But Bloomberg sent the panel a...From ‘Gothamist’:<br /><br />“But Bloomberg sent the panel a warning, saying that if they didn’t appoint Black they will literally not be able to find anyone else to do the job. Anywhere. Forever. He asked, “How would you get somebody else? I don’t know what you’d do if you didn’t [get the waiver]…I don’t know why anybody would come if you didn’t do this.” Yes, why would any educator apply now that they know Bloomberg is looking for business moguls?”<br /><br />The business of corruption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-46262734653836204622010-11-20T16:41:02.266-05:002010-11-20T16:41:02.266-05:00I am not weighing in on the broader issues raised ...I am not weighing in on the broader issues raised by your post, but just on the Open Meetings Law question. The selective quoting of the Open Meetings Law leaves out the explicit exemption for discussion of personnel matters. With a regular school board outside of NYC, it is routine for school boards to go into executive session for a personnel discussion and then come out of executive session for any required votes. This is often done in the case of the selection of a school superintendent, where the discussion is private and the vote to appoint is public.Thomas W. Carrollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-64837187682912136102010-11-20T16:40:04.061-05:002010-11-20T16:40:04.061-05:00I am not weighing in on the broader issues raised ...I am not weighing in on the broader issues raised by your post, but just on the Open Meetings Law question. The selective quoting of the Open Meetings Law leaves out the explicit exemption for discussion of personnel matters. With a regular school board outside of NYC, it is routine for school boards to go into executive session for a personnel discussion and then come out of executive session for any required votes. This is often done in the case of the selection of a school superintendent, where the discussion is private and the vote to appoint is public.Thomas W. Carrollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2586988941850907367.post-62648376384976116172010-11-20T16:18:50.357-05:002010-11-20T16:18:50.357-05:00Generally personnel matters are not covered by the...Generally personnel matters are not covered by the open meetings law. For instance, if there was an employee being brought up on charges, such a meeting could be held in executive session. However, I think a good lawyer could overcome this. Maybe the same guy that prevented the 19 schools from being closed last year?Andrew Wolfnoreply@blogger.com